View Full Version : why don't you play zp anymore?
cheese
06-26-2007, 07:58 PM
I know some people still do, but theres like 2 servers and hardly anyone including myself plays anymore.
I don't have a lot of time anymore, but even if I did I still wouldn't play. Honestly there just aren't any good maps for the game and it's kinda so neutered that it's not really fun anymore. You can have models n extra stuff to download but it only keeps the same few people.
If zp wen't back to .94, it would probably do a LOT better. So what if it was imba, that's kinda the point.
SuperNubb
06-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Cause I'm too busy playing ZP:S! Awwwwww yeahhh!
samhain
06-26-2007, 08:06 PM
How about giving us a go :)
I still play everday, i enjoy it very much. ive been playing for about 2 1/2 years on off
Pteradactyl
06-26-2007, 08:08 PM
the dtd/gamesyn server shut down
cheese
06-26-2007, 09:35 PM
I don't mind the game except for one thing, the jump delay. Worst improvement ever.
So theres no more ninja zombies, but now we have survivors piled high camping areas that zombies have to stack to get to and with the jump delay it causes zombie players to become upset to the point of leaving because of this strategy. Hotel_Final and Industry are some of the ones that have the worst reputation for this.
Before zombies were pretty lethal because they could stack easier and get to high places. Now they are more like fodder which stabs.
Before you had to learn to be a good zombo and a good survivor. Now the zombie team only wins if people are good as zombies.
The strategy now requires you to camp in the highest place with the most ammo and a shotgun or rifle. Camping in high places is how you win. Teamwork is secondary, thus we see the objective maps have diminished in interest.
A lot of the people who started playing in .93, .94 really liked zp but with 1.0, things changed. Bugs were fixed but the gameplay changed into what it is now, which is camp-a-thon. Maps like bridges are popular because it's the way the game encourages people to play.
Before people had to be good zombies and good survivors to be good players. Now if you can own as a zombie you're good. Surviving really has no strategy or skill anymore aside from magnum headshots, which are easier to get since zombos jump less.
People have blamed the reason for ZP not doing so well on a lot of reasons, but the truth is that people don't play hl:zp because it's hl:zp. It had a HUGE following in 2004 and then after the 1.0 update it started dwindling. Now you're left with just a handfull of servers, some of which are only periodically filled. HL:ZP may just have been a test to see the interest for source, and it was as a gushing waterfall, but now it is merely a trickle in an almost dry riverbed.
I care much for this mod and it's source version, but I must admit that there are times that even my patience grows thin and I feel like this mod is on standby until it gets some some modellors/animators. I very much enjoy these forums and the community that follows them but lately there pervades a feeling of apathy towards the mod from everyone.
OkeiDo
06-27-2007, 12:43 AM
Cheese we have already got modelers and animators so don't worry.
I don't play ZP because I moved to a new house in January, it took me some time before I got my internet connection and when I did I noticed my PC was a little messed up so I had to format it. Then it said my harddrive was damaged, I got a new one for free (from my mother work) and that one is as messed as my old one, it wont let me install XP on it. I've been too stingy to buy a new one because I've been saving for my trip this summer, I will order one as soon as I get back.
I have played 3-4 times on my brothers PC since January but the game is not the same anymore, I used to play it every day for more than 2 years but when I left the Pwn of the dead server shut down and most of the people I know disappeared from HL:Zp.
What kept me playing and made it enjoyable everytime was the friendly people, the community and the original gameplay. That in my opinion is long gone, now it's all whining people with custom sounds and models. Plus all the servers have high pings.
I could try to bring Pwn of the dead back and try to bring all my old Zp friends back in game but I can't be bothered right now. I'm hoping that Source will bring it all back again. :)
Kommando
06-27-2007, 05:04 AM
Yeah, the jump-delay really sucks... It is impossible to have fun as a zombie nowadays, due to the frustration of having to wait 2 seconds after each jump. Before I would actually volounter at times, but now it is simply not worth it. This also makes me want to reconnect every time I become a zombie, but I don't want to cause my own server to crash, and I need to be a good example so others don't retry and cause my server to crash.
However, I do still play ZP. It still is one of my favorite games, despite the ????ty change regarding the jumpdelay. As long as being a survivor it is funny, which fortunately is 90% of the time for me anyways.
cheese
06-27-2007, 08:34 AM
Well OkeiDo hope your trip goes well, sorry to hear about your HD and computer issues. I'd buy you a new HD if I could.
The community was amazing. Honestly if having a .94 server would bring it back I'd highly consider it. The only thing is that I'd like to know what it takes to actually get one going, aside from monthly payments. I just want a server with AMXX mod on it that runs zp .94 and thats it. I know how to upload to a server and all that jazz. I'm just wondering if you actually need to own the equipment or you lease it and if you lease it, you just upload the stuff to it and thats how it works?
Some screens of zp from the "Golden Era"
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/nialldowning/contingency.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/nialldowning/7th.jpg
and of course this one from .94 from about the first time I started playing zp.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/nialldowning/zombiebar.jpg
OkeiDo
06-27-2007, 08:48 AM
Haha I remember when people used to play the Bartender game, usually resulted in the humans "not paying" and getting chased by the bartender zombie.
If you want to host a 0.94 server people need to have that version installed in order to play on it.
zp_7th_drop for the win!
cheese
06-27-2007, 08:53 AM
I have the files for .93 and .94 and 1.0 still
It's just a matter of hosting it that might cause a problem.
OkeiDo
06-27-2007, 08:59 AM
I'm not sure if people would be willing to install an old version of a game to bypass the zombie jump delay.
I hate Ninja zombies myself, the jump delay made me better as a zombie because I switched tactics.
CodeFire
06-27-2007, 08:59 AM
I used to play it every day for more than 2 years but most of the people I know disappeared from HL:Zp.
What kept me playing and made it enjoyable everytime was the friendly people, the community and the original gameplay. That in my opinion is long gone, now it's all whining people with custom sounds and models.
Thats why I stopped playing zp months ago. It's just not the same any more.
BOOM HEADSHOT
06-27-2007, 09:00 AM
i got boreded for many reasons now i'm just waiting for zps to be released
cheese
06-27-2007, 09:14 AM
well epidemic had the last stand server and that had no custom content. He didn't even want a lot of custom maps on there. He had hardly any admins and maybe 1 was ever active.
People who play now prefer the custom content and the whining. It's as juvenille as middle school and thats how they love it. With abusive admins and everyone thinking the term "rape faces" is funny, I can't really find myself playing on any server long.
The Kinslayer
06-27-2007, 09:53 AM
Ditto. It's all grappling hooks, parachutes, random explosion, pets and F-ing RPG now. Bloody kids *Shakes stick!*
cheese
06-27-2007, 10:02 AM
No wonder no one plays zp anymore.
Kommando
06-27-2007, 11:04 AM
I would love going back to 0.94 (especially now when I have a autohopp script that would work for it), but only if most of the community did. Otherwise there would be almost no players and therefore not much fun obviously.
Pteradactyl
06-27-2007, 12:29 PM
I like the jump delay :)
CaptainSnake
06-27-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm not playing anymore cause some moderator stole my effing post count and won't restore it.
Scruffy
06-27-2007, 01:12 PM
Looks like its time for captainsnake to go the way of ol' yella
cheese
06-27-2007, 01:26 PM
a version newer than 1.0 with a bit less cruel of a jump delay wouldn't be bad.
Kazuya86
06-27-2007, 02:22 PM
Yeah, the jump-delay really sucks... It is impossible to have fun as a zombie nowadays, due to the frustration of having to wait 2 seconds after each jump. Before I would actually volounter at times, but now it is simply not worth it. This also makes me want to reconnect every time I become a zombie, but I don't want to cause my own server to crash, and I need to be a good example so others don't retry and cause my server to crash.
However, I do still play ZP. It still is one of my favorite games, despite the ????ty change regarding the jumpdelay. As long as being a survivor it is funny, which fortunately is 90% of the time for me anyways.
Your usually the hardest survivor to get kommando..
Anyways i always play a lot, im in the {S.M.C.}, and the own3d clan hideout servers, in own3d 1 when there is no people in other
cheese
06-27-2007, 04:24 PM
i don't really play computer games anymore, but when I do I'll see if I can find ya on there.
OrangeJuice
06-27-2007, 06:15 PM
I've been playing ZP for a awhile and yeah it has kinda dwindle on players. I like mods that have small communities, but if they're a community of ???-holes, well then what's the point? .94 was the best version of ZP, and 1.0 was cool when it came out, but now Like everyone else said it's whiney people and models and junk. I think everyones just waiting for ZP:S, like me.
BOOM HEADSHOT
06-28-2007, 09:34 AM
I'm not playing anymore cause some moderator stole my effing post count and won't restore it.
they did because over half your posts were spam :P
cheese
06-28-2007, 10:04 AM
He's the only Priveleged Member with less than 500 posts now. THAT's awesome.
Pteradactyl
06-28-2007, 12:31 PM
Ditto. It's all grappling hooks, parachutes, random explosion, pets and F-ing RPG now. Bloody kids *Shakes stick!*
i wonder when some server will have unreal tournament sounds
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