Weapon Idea and Suggestions

[Hastings]

Ok, new thread for a new year. Old one got to big

1. Try to stay on topic.

2. If you can post a pic of what you speak of or a link to a source. eg: www.world.guns.ru

3. Dont fight over what weapon is better or not unless it really is. eg: Blunderbuss vs Mossberg.

That said, have fun. :)

[CopperCoatedCandy]

Best idea ever!!! Illegally converted full-auto Ruger 10/22 .22LR carbine with a 50-round drum magazine. Many shots to kill a zombo, but high rate of fire and large mag capacity. I'm way ahead of you though, there are a ~~~~~-ton of manuals and dvd's out there that are sold on the internet that show you how to convert a 10/22 to full auto (though it is still illegal to actually do the converting). I know that this idea is probably hopeless for the initial zps release, but i think it could probably be implemented later.

The gun in the back, not the pistol in this picture...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:CDhSmXB00g_72M:http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/106852_ts.JPG%3Fcell%3D200,200%26cvt%3Djpeg

and for all you skeptics, the conversion manual...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:2bqItQrf95avRM:http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/media/C-195_full_auto_10-22.jpg


And without the drum clip...

http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ruger_10_22/ruger10-22-1d_small.jpg

[CaptainSnake]

Best idea ever!!! Illegally converted full-auto Ruger 10/22 .22LR carbine with a 50-round drum magazine. Many shots to kill a zombo, but high rate of fire and large mag capacity. I'm way ahead of you though, there are a ~~~~~-ton of manuals and dvd's out there that are sold on the internet that show you how to convert a 10/22 to full auto (though it is still illegal to actually do the converting). I know that this idea is probably hopeless for the initial zps release, but i think it could probably be implemented later.

The gun in the back, not the pistol in this picture...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:CDhSmXB00g_72M:http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/106852_ts.JPG%3Fcell%3D200,200%26cvt%3Djpeg

and for all you skeptics, the conversion manual...

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:2bqItQrf95avRM:http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/media/C-195_full_auto_10-22.jpg


And without the drum clip...

http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ruger_10_22/ruger10-22-1d_small.jpg

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How do you expect to snipe with that drum barrel weighing you down..

On the pistol the clip will fall off before you can get 3 - 4 shots off EL OH EL

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[acker]

Ruger 10/22 (.22 LR, semi-auto). The original, non-hacked model.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_10/22

Crowbar (do I need a picture?)

Katana (ditto)

M1911A1 (.45 pistol, I want a comeback in ZP: S)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911

[CopperCoatedCandy]

EL OH EL

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How do you expect to snipe with that drum barrel weighing you down..

On the pistol the clip will fall off before you can get 3 - 4 shots off EL OH EL

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Do you know at all what you're talking about? It's not meant to be a sniper weapon. And there are things that hold clips in. You are starting to be a lot like pete13...

I definitely think that a full auto hi-cap 10/22 would be a great gun in zps.

[Koozie the Katt]

Ruger 96/44: Lever-Action .44 Magnum, 4 round tubular magazine
http://hunting.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=hunting&cdn=sports&tm=15&f=00&su=p284.5.420.ip_&tt=3&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAFamily%3Ftype%3DRifle%26subtype%3DLever%2520Acti on%26famlst%3D37%26variation%3DModel%252096%2520Ri mfire

ASM CZ-550: Bolt-Action .458 Lott, 3 round fixed magazine
http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/product_detail.php?id=50

Taurus Thunder 5: Double-Action .45LC/.410 Shotgun 5 shooter
http://www.thunder5.com/docs1.html

[kusari_gama1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE0AX1r4QLook i played zombie for 2 days and i like it so far so good im already in a clan on my 2nd day its called, <{0wned}> clan'' and im a full member and a clan member so yea so far so good. oh and i really think we should have a kusari gama and you all know what the looks like its a sickle or a long hard wooden staff with a chain inside too, plus at the top of the wooden staff you got 2 or 1 blades and the upper middle part of the staff comes in have ware you can swing the othe rpice of the staff because its atached with a chain so it can go fall and cut you in half or just chop your head off. heres a video to make it more under-standble

[lordLoss]

Ok, new thread for a new year. Old one got to big

1. Try to stay on topic.

2. If you can post a pic of what you speak of or a link to a source. eg: www.world.guns.ru

3. Dont fight over what weapon is better or not unless it really is. eg: Blunderbuss vs Mossberg.

That said, have fun. :)

Did you save all the ideas that were on the front page of the old one?






Idea: Some sort of 22. weapon. They are cheap and plentiful throughout the world.

[kusari_gama1]

Ok Fine Nobodys Talks About My Weapon Omg

[kusari_gama1]

Heres the kusari gama in use video
IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE0AX1r4QLo[/IMG]

and heres the wolf claw mele weapon in use video
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Samurai+Champloo+Episode+25+-+Part+2&search=Search

and heres the ending part of the wolf claw video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8sJo7_830I

plz comment

[lordLoss]

Ok Fine Nobodys Talks About My Weapon Omg

You mean the big chainy thing that the crazy guy uses? Can you pick one of those up within 2 miels of your house? If not, its not a good idea. Also, think of the porgramming required to get the swinging chain motion done. You're talking adding months onto the release date, and a patch would be huge.


*Loads AA gun* Shot down me thinks.

[CopperCoatedCandy]

Idea: Some sort of 22. weapon. They are cheap and plentiful throughout the world.

Look at my idea! I think it's a good one.

[lordLoss]

Depending on how many people can be arsed modding the gun to that extent, I'm not sure. But I am sure that it will be awesome to use one.

[Koozie the Katt]

Look at my idea! I think it's a good one.
I don't even think drums are legal.....Besides, it unnecessary 1 .22 Magnum to the face SHOULD put someone down.

Israeli Army Uzi .45 ACP (Maybe from the local gang.....)
http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/shoots/uzitalk2005/Vector%20UZI%20wood.jpg

The Thompson / Center Contender .416 Magnum oO (This is a beautiful a** weapon btw)
http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/firearmDetails.php?ID=2702


Btw, BIG fan of .22's :D!

[Ion]

.22 Rimfire Pistol. (http://www.internetguncatalog.com/pics/26548.jpg)

*Recommended by Zombie Survival Guide

[JK-]

Aww Hastings, you're so evil.
You could at least added the 2 huge main posts by me.
Which included alot of the weapons mentioned.
Oh well, I'll add the ones I remember. And a few new:)

Melee:
- Frying pan
- Baseball-bat
- Fire-poke
- Shovel
- Homemade spear
- Grass cutter

Misc:
- Flaregun
- Tazer
- Nailgun
- Stones

[acker]

Crossbow.
Combat knife, (primary slices, secondary throws, retrievable).
Does anyone know about any good muzzleloaders or single shots?

[Kommando]

I would love to see a M16 with a M203 grenade launcher attached to it. It is my favorite weapon. I doubt it will happen though.

And a sledgehammer must definately be in the game. It would be an realistic weapon to use in a zombie outbreak, altough clumsy and slow.

[Koozie the Katt]

Yeah cuz you know everyone and their Grandma has a M16/M203 :P.

Bow, just a normal recurve bow (I think compounds are ugly :()
http://www.ssgecom.com/products/images/20023735_l.jpg

Katana
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/orientaltreasure/jw290801.jpg

Ithatca Auto 10 Gauge Magnum (This is a purty one, but it can be like mine: plain and boring and rugged ;))
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=8490

[CopperCoatedCandy]

The drums are legal unless you live in California or New York, so yeah. And I don't mean the .22 WMR 1/22, i mean the .22LR one.

[Koozie the Katt]

If yall are going to put a drum on something why on the Thompson? 50 rounds of .45 caliber death!!!

The Thompson SMG .45 ACP (aka the Chicago Typewriter)
http://www.armory.net/img/CU/CU_700-02.jpg

Throwable Harpoon (Here's a few styles)
http://www.whalecraft.net/Two%20Flue.html

M1 Garand .30-06
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/spr_m1_side.jpg

[CopperCoatedCandy]

I think that the 10/22 would be way better than the thompson, way more people have it and the thompson would unbalence the game too much.

[Hastings]

I think drums are only legal if in certain states, and if the frum was made pre ban. Or did that go away with the ban leaving us finally?

[moomoocowman]

The garand would be nice, but they are an antique now and hard to find. I think your basic .22 ruger would be cool. Found in millions of household the good ol ruger.

http://www.theothersideofkim.com/images/2005files/BuckMark-Bullseye_thumb.jpg
(Most are not that nice)

As for drums. Sorry, but personally I think it's a bad idea. That amount of ammo makes it way too easy.

[acker]

Lead Pipe
Cinder Block
M1903 Springfield rifle (without scope) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1903_Springfield_rifle

[moomoocowman]

Ahh I like the cinder block idea. You find a blown out hole where they spawn and they spawn faster than normal guns/ammo because they are not that great. There you can pick one up as a powerful melee weapon and the alternate fire will be throw. After you throw it its shatters though.

[CopperCoatedCandy]

I think drums are only legal if in certain states, and if the frum was made pre ban. Or did that go away with the ban leaving us finally?

No, they're only illegal now in certain states (California, New Jersey, and Massachussets). Since the ban expired, any size magazine is legal.

[Koozie the Katt]

http://www.theothersideofkim.com/images/2005files/BuckMark-Bullseye_thumb.jpg
(Most are not that nice)

As for drums. Sorry, but personally I think it's a bad idea. That amount of ammo makes it way too easy.
That's a nice pistol :D and I agree, no drums. Personally I think the .22 LR and the .22 CB are too little; the .22 Magnum is powerful, but not the little rounds. CB rounds are for target shooting and I can't even kill a crow with a .22 LR, but a .22 Magnum would be nice.

The Colt M16A1 .223 (Vitnam Version) Semi-Auto, 16 round magazine
http://shop.military-club.cz/images/airsoft/marui/tm_m16a1vn_sm.jpg

Rossi .410 Shotgun (Slug-Gun) Crack-Barrel
http://personalsecurityzone.com/images/BRZS411280Slg.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/olegv/north/_410breech.jpg

[CopperCoatedCandy]

That's a nice pistol :D and I agree, no drums. Personally I think the .22 LR and the .22 CB are too little; the .22 Magnum is powerful, but not the little rounds. CB rounds are for target shooting and I can't even kill a crow with a .22 LR, but a .22 Magnum would be nice.

The .22 LR is fine as long as you have it full auto with a high capacity clip. The .22 CB is too little, but a .22LR is fine. You must have missed that crow, because a .22 can easily kill one.


The Colt M16A1 .223 (Vitnam Version) Semi-Auto, 16 round magazine
http://shop.military-club.cz/images/airsoft/marui/tm_m16a1vn_sm.jpg

This gun is terrible.

[moomoocowman]

It's a good idea for the M16A1 but hes right during NAM we cranked out the worst M16's.

[CopperCoatedCandy]

As for drums. Sorry, but personally I think it's a bad idea. That amount of ammo makes it way too easy.

Not if you have a very low caliber such as a .22LR. That's the point, because you balance high clip capacity and high rate of fire with very low damage (5-10).

[moomoocowman]

Yeah I forgot it's a video game. You can do anything you want, like setting damage.

[Koozie the Katt]

This gun is terrible.
I realize that, but they no longer make small magazines for the M16 or M4...Believe me, I know :(....

[CopperCoatedCandy]

I'm sure you can obtain them eassily enough as those were the only ones manufactured during the AW ban.

[Koozie the Katt]

I looked for a small M4 magazine and could find one. I even went to the supposevly the best guy for the job in Louisiana....No matter, the 30 round magazines are OK :)!

Crossbow (Compound and Recurve)
http://www.pssstequipment.com/images_products/barnett_the_revolution_s3062.jpg
http://www.shoshone.k12.id.us/medieval/images/crossbow.jpg

[Fisker]

An Umbrella like in dead rising

[Fisker]

A little timed bomb, you could put on the zombie, and it would explode.

[Ion]

Defibulator...

[moomoocowman]

Time bomb= No thats a little to unrealistic.

Defibular= Could actually work, they have a crap load of them around cities and in public buildings, it wouldn't be hard to find them.

[CaptainSnake]

Time bomb= No thats a little to unrealistic.

Timed Dynamite perhaps?

[moomoocowman]

It would be cool, but than again how many civilians know how to make timers that ignite bombs.

[Ion]

Laser Pointer.

[acker]

Quite a few civilians know how to make Time Bombs. The ultimate source of info: The Internet.

I want an Daisy .177 air rifle!

[Kommando]

A timed bomb is a pretty good idea, imo. Not to strap on zombies, though; that would be extremely foolish. It would be useful to deploy at breakable spots - especially if it is part of an objective to break spot X.

[JK-]

Alternate fire for crowbar, and fire poker (If implemented):
And for other melee weapons that could be warmed up, without being destroyed/burn you.

The alternate fire would make you reach out the weapon in front of you, and enable you to heat the melee weapon up over a heat/fire source.

Like, if the mapper adds a fire source, he can determine with an option if it should be possible to use that fire source to heat/warm up the chosen weapons.

If that option is enabled, your crowbar/fire poker will be heated up by the fire source when you reach it out, allowing for much higher damage than usual, as it would burn the zombies with each hit.

[moomoocowman]

Quite a few civilians know how to make Time Bombs. The ultimate source of info: The Internet.

I want an Daisy .177 air rifle!

I doubt it, but how many people have spare nitroglycerin, fuses, and scientific experience in explosives?

The air rifle isn't a half bad idea. There a lot of them around. Left click could be fire. Right click could be pump, and you can pump up to 10 times. The more pumps=the more damage.

[Koozie the Katt]

The air rifle isn't a half bad idea. There a lot of them around. Left click could be fire. Right click could be pump, and you can pump up to 10 times. The more pumps=the more damage.
I'd rather just walk right up to them....

Syringe of Cyanide:
http://www.dea.gov/photos/paraphernalia/syringe.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide

Blowgun with Poison Darts (Like HC Acid):
http://www.louisianavoices.org/images_creole_data/oca11_12.jpg

[CaptainSnake]

lol cyanide

[supergit]

i've never played the first zombie panic but i think it sounds GREAT!

however i could help but notice this as i was looking at the pictures of the guns and that is the glock. it has the authentic glock marking but it says on the side of the glock "made in australia" however glocks are made in austria.

p.s. sorry if i just sound picky but i just thought i should say.

[supergit]

one last thing i forgot to say is also about the glock and that is on ZP website the photo says 9mmx9

real glocks hold 19 9mm rounds and 20 if one is in the breach

p.s. sorry to be picky again

[HunkPie]

israeli .ae uzi submachine gun or a mp5 smg and hopefully a grenade launcher although that would probably overpower humans :S but maybe you could make this gun very rare and only carry 1 round of ammo permenantly

[JK-]

one last thing i forgot to say is also about the glock and that is on ZP website the photo says 9mmx9

real glocks hold 19 9mm rounds and 20 if one is in the breach

p.s. sorry to be picky again

I don't think it would be funny for the zombies if they made it so realistic.
When zombies see a survivor with a pistol they see a chance to actually make the undead forces grow stronger. As the humans would have to hit with all bullets, or get a few headshots.
But if the glock would have so many bullets, it'd be enough to kill 2 zombies, easily:dry:

[moomoocowman]

What he said ^

And actually Glocks hold 17 not 19.

[supergit]

actually glocks do hold 19 rounds in a magazine, i may not use real guns but i'm an airsofter and we airsofters that are serious take authentic markings seriously, i think i would know how many rounds a real gun holds.

glosks hold 19 rounds

[Comeback]

I don't see any problem with a timed bomb. I'm no bomb expert, but I'm pretty sure
i can cook one up with items around here(also with the help of the internet). And i actually have fuses as well. I just don't like hearing "unrealistic". Just because it isn't in you're home, it doesn't mean that it isn't in others. Also, with the way things are scattered around the maps, it wouldn't be too hard to find another persons more complicated weaponry.

I'd love to see some typee of home-made demo pack(or even an actual demo pack that was stolen from a storage room) with a timer that can be set with secondary fire, and deployed with primary.

Default: 10 seconds
Next: 15 seconds
Next: 20 seconds

and so on.

As for guns, the cheater survivor part of me wants a street sweeper http://blog.jameshom.com/images/striker.jpg

Of course thats an actual production made version, couldn't find a picture of a street-made, wich aren't "unrealisticly" hard to find. I've seen cops remove them from a neighbors home a few years back(along with other insane things).

And maybe a hot glue gun?

[Teh Infernal Zombine]

israeli .ae uzi submachine gun or a mp5 smg and hopefully a grenade launcher although that would probably overpower humans :S but maybe you could make this gun very rare and only carry 1 round of ammo permenantly

Then some wiseass little kid or someone like Pete13 (Check RP area) could just.

1. Join game.

2. Play a normal round.

3. Play new round but run to the grenade launcher and pick it up.

4. Wait until all survivors are stacked neatly together.

5. BADABOOOOM!

[supergit]

who is pete13?

[moomoocowman]

actually glocks do hold 19 rounds in a magazine, i may not use real guns but i'm an airsofter and we airsofters that are serious take authentic markings seriously, i think i would know how many rounds a real gun holds.

glosks hold 19 rounds

I'm not a airsofter but I own a Glock 17, I think I would know how many rounds a real gun holds. It holds 17 rounds you can UPGRADE to the 19 or 33 round magazine.

PS Airsoft is LAME, paintball.

[memorium]

a nail gun would be nice also a paintball gun would be cool *cough*a russian gun*cough*

[JK-]

I'm not a airsofter but I own a Glock 17, I think I would know how many rounds a real gun holds. It holds 17 rounds you can UPGRADE to the 19 or 33 round magazine.

PS Airsoft is LAME, paintball.

A pistol with 33 bullets in each clip:blink:
That's just too amazing...

[moomoocowman]

Lol yeah it is, the new Glock 18 actually has a fully auto mode in which you can spray with those 33 bullets.

[Ion]

Attatch a barrel drum to a D-Eagle.

[-=GLA=- B.E.A.S.T]

Idea: Some sort of 22. weapon. They are cheap and plentiful throughout the world.[/QUOTE]

lol people have been shot with .22's and not known till minutes later so i dont think it would do ... well anything to a zombie even if you hit the head the round is so small might not even harm them and ive seen a show where people ahve had javelins go through theyre head and theyre stil alive my friend has a bb gun that shoots as fast as a .22 if it were in the game ide stick to the good ol crowbar. no offense

[-=GLA=- B.E.A.S.T]

and think of the poor zombies before you put some nuclear weapons in here they only have open hands, if they were to add overpowered weapons ( incendiary shells, timed bombs) then make them in pieces around the map like 2 household chemicals for instance CL, and some rubbing alcohol in a soda bottle close cap shake and throw makes a boom so you have to run around the house looking for the 2 ingrediants and the container once you get all 3 it will appear in a weapon slot or the classic molotov (gasoline, glass beer bottle, rag and onc eyou get all 3 pieces the item will appear in a weapon slot) there should be an alternate zombie atatck the classic bite - sorry about the long post getting out alot of ideas for conisderation

[lordLoss]

Its not about what you think will do the most damage, its about what actually does damage. If I had the choice of shooting a zombie with a .22 rifle and going into a punch up with something that doesnt feel pain, I'd take the gun thank you.

[moomoocowman]

You go Loss :P.

[JK-]

Human weapons:

Melee:
Frying pan:
It would be easy to find in any house/caf? and other dining areas.
Primary fire could be hit while secondary could be blocking with minor chance of succes.

Baseball-bat:
This would also be easy and realistic to find, not as often as frying pan though, but it is often found in stores. Only normal hitting abilities with this weapon.

Plank:
Would be probably be easy to find with unfinished buildings and at wood-cutting/building companies. Probably melee weapon that would do lesser damage than all others.

Bread-Knife:
Would surely be the easiest weapon to achieve. It can be found in most homes, with shortest range of the melee weapons and unknown amount of damage.

Shovel:
I bet someone has mentioned this before, but I've never seen any posts with it(At least not any I remember).
Good melee damage and longest range of melee weapons. Also it would be heavy with medium/long charge/attack time.

Chainsaw: Hastings
An old slow heavy chainsaw of metal(Not of plast like newer ones).
It would be real heavy and hard to retrieve ammo for. It would take down an zombie in matter of seconds, but with only ability of attacking one zombie at a time the owner would probably be killed at once if 2 zombies attacked at once.

Lead pipe: CopperCoatedCandy
I have no clue what that is, so if you can give an better dscription that would be good.

Nail-Bat: CopperCoatedCandy
Same as baseball-bat, but with an nail through it making it much more damaging.
Could be used with the nailgun on the normal baseball-bat, which is more realistic than finding one I believe.

Heavy firearms: CopperCoatedCandy
Using heavy weapons butt as an melee weapon. Damage depending on the weapons size.

Nail-Plank:
Same as plank, but with an nail through it making it much more damaging.
Could be used with the nailgun on the normal plank, which is more realistic than finding one I believe.

Katana: BOOM HEADSHOT
Can be found in stores or in homes(Rarely for both). Does 50 damage, 70 if you hit head. Short range.

Sub-Machineguns:
Much weaker than ak-47 and shorter range with more/less bullet capacity, fast reload and not as heavy.
Possible to equip silencer on some of the smg's(If they add silencer)
I don't know anything about these weapons, please give an better description and I'll edit this.

MP5: CopperCoatedCandy
An Heckler & Koch German made sub-machinegun, uses 9mm rounds in a 30 round magazine

mac10: CopperCoatedCandy
Uses 9mm or .45 ACP probably.

Rifles:
The normal rifles would be more accurate than semi-auto assault rifles i believe, maybe stronger. With reload/waiting after each shot. I believe this is one of the most used by farmers that have ranged weapons in home.

Winchester Rifle:
This is only rifle I know the name of, but I've seen it several times.
Like in many zombies movies including Shaun of the dead and on Brain-Bread.

Uzi's:
Weaker but not as heavy as smg's with around same bullet amount in each clip.
Probably weaker and not as accurate as smg's but can probably fire faster.

Machine pistol:
Like an combination of an pistol and an smg/assault rifle i believe.
Fire modes can be semi-auto or full-auto with around 10-20 bullets capacity in each clip and around same damage amounts as normal pistols.

Shotguns:
Sawn-off shotgun:
Free-semi-auto firing, with 2 bullets then reload.
Unknown amount of strengt and not as heavy as normal shotguns.

Remington M870: CopperCoatedCandy
Maybe the best selling firearm in the world, therefore would probably be easier to find.

Throwable:
Molotov cocktail:
I don't think they added secondary fire to the molotov, but if not it can be this.
Secondary fire can be sliding it at ground so that you can blow it up if you hit.

Smoke grenade:
You would probably be able to find some of those at an weapons dealer and police department.
Maybe blur the vision of players that's inside the smoke up a little so it's not to unfair for zombies.

Flash-bang:
I'm 99% sure that this will not be implemented, but i suggest it anyway.
You will probably be able to find these at places mentioned above.
If you're human you can be affected by flashbang if looking at that direction.
Maybe effect can be stronger if the center of the flashbang is in middle of aim.

Remote-bomb/c4: Zombie-Panic! 1
I really hope you add an remote-bomb like in the hl1 version for zombie panic.
Maybe a 1-2 carry limit for it.
I don't know what else to say about it, but if any of you guys can come up with anything tell me.

All throwable: Secondary fire can be sliding along the ground so that it will for example be easier throwing it into an small opening.

Combination:
Akimbo:
Ability to use same/different weapons like 2 pistols of same type or 2 different types,
and maybe ability to combine pistols, uzi's and machine-pistol.
Free-semi-auto firing.

Misc:
Nailgun:
Extra short ranged with fast reload(I believe). I'm not sure of what max ammo would be nor how much damage it would do. Also it could be done so that if you hit a zombie with the nail gun you can see the nail stuck in the zombie. It would be awesome to nail an zombie alot and just see lots of nails poking out of his/her head

Taser:
Extra short ranged with fast reload(I believe). Don't know how much damage on this one, nor ammo.
I'm also 99% sure this won't be implemented, but I say it anyway in case someone wants it).
And just so you know, I'm very sure it would be possible to use tasers in real-life on zombies.
Because it paralyzes/shocks the nerve system, and if the nerve system weren't working they wouldn't be able to move.

Benzin/Oil:
Primary fire could be spilling out a little(Maybe 4-7 seconds to empty it). Then if you shoot at the benzin/oil it will catch on fire.
Secondary fire could be dropping the tank and shoot it, which would cause an small explosion.

Flourbag:
You would open it then spill/throw all the flour at once, making an very short lastingsmoke barrier in a way.
You would maybe also be able to throw it at an zombie making only that zombie loosing vision for a little longer time. Would be easy to retrieve and would be small/medium weight.

Mini-Flamethrower:
You only need 1 spray-box and 1 lighter(Not empty).
You turn on the lighter then spray a little above the lighter with the spray-box.
The range is short like maybe a little over 1 meter, but with high risk of setting zombies on fire.
But since it has such an little range, it would be an high risk of getting caught.
Maybe very little chance for an small explosion. The weight is also very low.

Tranquilizer: camp4r (Old post)
Would be short/medium ranged with unknown amount of ammo.
If you for example hit an zombie in the leg, it would make them a bit slower, or if hit in the arm the melee attack would be slower.

Pistols:
Possible to equip silencer on some of the pistols(If they add silencer)

Desert Eagle: CopperCoatedCandy
Probably strongest pistol next to magnum. It would be high damage and good accuracy, and a 7-9 bullet clip.

Glock 18: CopperCoatedCandy
Clips of 18/20 bullets, with full-auto and semi-auto firing modes.
9mm (Or maybe .40 S&W, I'm not positive), is a select fire automatic pistol (Preferably with an extended magazine). Weaker than most pistols(I think).

Barreta M93F: CopperCoatedCandy
Uses 9mm rounds, is a select-fire automatic pistol like the glock (Preferably with an extended magazine).

Bolt-Action rifles:

Carbine:
Colt M4A1: CopperCoatedCandy
Carbine version of the M16, uses 5.56 caliber NATO in a 30-round magazine.

M1 Carbine:
Used in WW2 and Korea(Limited use in Vietnam). Uses .30 cal, or 7.62 in a 15 round magazine(I think).

Assault rifles:
Possible to equip silencer on some of the assault rifles(If they add silencer)

Colt M16A2: CopperCoatedCandy
Uses 5.56 caliber NATO in a 30-round magazine. Is the standard issue rifle for the U.S military.
Weaker than the ak-47(Due to lower caliber, I think), but more accurate.

Zombie weapons:

Teeths: CopperCoatedCandy
An bite attack, that can with an low risk infect the survivor making him/her slowly transform into a zombie,(If infection is gonna be implemented) and at the same make do damage.
Would be slow and hard to perform, but with good damage.

Throwable body parts: BOOM HEADSHOT
I really doubt this will be implemented, except if you mean take body parts from dead survivors.
Does 30-35 damage medium/long range. As you have seen in bridges if you play zp, when the humans make it to the shotgun place, it's almost impossible to kill them, unless one of them get's stupid. The more you use it the slower you get

[moomoocowman]

Jk, have I ever told you that I love you? Dude thats an awesome list thanks for taking the time to type it all up. Great ideas.

BTW lead pipes are outdated, but they are basically pipes made with heavy/poisonous metal. Also the Mp5, Uzi, and Mac10 are all sub-machineguns.

[JK-]

That was just my first post in the weapons thread I made.
I'll go and get the other post now:)

Edit: Here it is -

Humans:
Assault-Rifle:
M16 with M203 grenade launcher: Kommando
I would like to see an M16 with a M203 grenade launcher in ZP: S. Unfortunately, I'm doubtful it will be implented.

Picture: http://setesh.net/m16m203

Misc:
Throwable weapons: BOOM HEADSHOT
Ability to throw your weapon when empty, if it hits zomb damage depends on how heavy weapon is, low accuracy.

Watch out! Incoming retard idea;
Snowballs:
You can carry 2-5 snowballs at once, but you can't use other weapons while carrying them.
They will melt after a little while, maybe like a minute or two.
If you hit zombies in the face, they get blinded (possible stunned) for around a half second.
Could be good and realistic for winter maps I know, they won't add it, but I take a wild guess that someone will just suggest it

Riot shield: de[th]
A shield to block attacks with, like on counter-strike.
Maybe added push ability.

Teargas grenade: Koozie the Katt
Would blur or ruin vision.

Crossbow/Bow: BOOM HEADSHOT
Can be found in stores, does about 50-100 damage. If headshot it has knockback, if aimed at body it has faster rate of fire but doesn't have knockback. The longer you hold the stronger it gets(For example 3 seconds max).

Bear-Trap: Scruffy
I really doubt this will get implemented because, if humans get caught and he's last human and it's only 1 afk zombie left. Would make so that next round never comes. And I doubt they will implement so that zombies can loose body parts while alive. Anyway here it is:
You just pick it up and drop it.
If a zombie gets caught in one, their too stupid to open it and lose a leg, so their overall speed goes down till they die and respawn.
But if a human gets caught, they can't open it because they are at an odd angle, or are in too much pain(Or something along those lines), so they need another human too open it or they remain immobilised leaving them a sitting duck for zombies. The bear traps could be reusable as well.

Melee:
Crowbar: Harrier
I myself would like to see a large crowbar. Ones that require 2 hands. Slower, but you can stick the straight end into the eyesocket, for a one hit kill.

Sledgehammer: Coldin
I also think a sledgehammer or the such would be interesting, very slow, but powerful.

Whip:
Either a whip with one tail, or several or both kinds. Melee weapon with longest reach, damage isn't to good, but it will stun for maybe like 0,5 sec, besides the charge will take a little longerthan with most other melee weapons. I know, they'll never implement it, even though people can easily get a hold of it. But it would be so fun

Tonfa/Nightstick: Koozie the Katt
I think this is like the ones the police carries. Maybe it's the same as batons.

[lordLoss]

Human weapons:



Remington M870: CopperCoatedCandy
Maybe the best selling firearm in the world, therefore would probably be easier to find.


Bolt-Action rifles:

Carbine:
Colt M4A1: CopperCoatedCandy
Carbine version of the M16, uses 5.56 caliber NATO in a 30-round magazine.

M1 Carbine:
Used in WW2 and Korea(Limited use in Vietnam). Uses .30 cal, or 7.62 in a 15 round magazine(I think).

Assault rifles:
Possible to equip silencer on some of the assault rifles(If they add silencer)

Colt M16A2: CopperCoatedCandy
Uses 5.56 caliber NATO in a 30-round magazine. Is the standard issue rifle for the U.S military.
Weaker than the ak-47(Due to lower caliber, I think), but more accurate.





*Sigh* For the last time, the AK-47 is the best selling and most popular firearm ever divised.

And none of those are Bolt action rifles, they are either semi-auto, 3R burst, fully Auto or all three.

[JK-]

Don't blame me, blame my sources:blink:

But I wonder who came up with the M1 carbine idea.
At least I know it wasn't me:unsure:

[Hastings]

A bolt action rifle has a mechanism that must be operated manually. Technically, all rifles are bolt operated in that their mechanism to chamber and fire uses some sort of bolt, but the traditional bolt action rifle is one where you must manually chamber and expell bullets. Examples of this are the Karbiner 98k, Springfield 03, and the Shmidt-Rubin Carbine.

Least thats what I have learned :P

[lordLoss]

So basicly there was no point in typing out all that? :P

[acker]

Idea: Some sort of 22. weapon. They are cheap and plentiful throughout the world.

lol people have been shot with .22's and not known till minutes later so i dont think it would do ... well anything to a zombie even if you hit the head the round is so small might not even harm them and ive seen a show where people ahve had javelins go through theyre head and theyre stil alive my friend has a bb gun that shoots as fast as a .22 if it were in the game ide stick to the good ol crowbar. no offense[/QUOTE]

A .22 does not create a large wound. However, the bullet generally doesn't have enough strength to exit the skull. This means massive ricochet effects. And ricochet effects in the brain is a very, very bad thing for the victim in question. /pwned

[moomoocowman]

Acker your right for the most part. A tipped .22 could probably pierce the skull right in and out. I know what your talking about though. People use hollow tip bullets for that. It enters the skull/flesh and continues to ricochet and spread into little pieces of shrapnel. There are also extreme bullets like that. People call them "cop killers", because they can pierce bullet-proof armor and then the Teflon coating turns into shrapnel and tears you up . They can literally turn your head into a pile of bone and brain. Nasty bullets they are, I'm glad they are illegal.

[Kommando]

Sledgehammer! I have probably mentioned it before, though, but just in case.

[JK-]

Hammer!

Thx for the reminder Kommando:P

[Ion]

A P90.

Thats my favorite SMG ever.

[lordLoss]

Mine too but the average Joe can't buy one at Wal-mart or what ever you call it can he?

[Shing-Shing]

maybe a semi-auto sniper?? :D

[JK-]

You got some crazy thoughts Shing-Shing:wacko:

[Shing-Shing]

it aint crazy :D

it would actually be cool :D

bbut very hard for zombies :P

[Kommando]

If it would have enough recoil, there would not be much advantage firing quickly with it. Besides, most ZP:S maps will probably not be too open, so in that case zooming would be impractical in most situations.

[Hastings]

Zps maps are more open than the previous engine, but the HL2 engine still has limits so they are not as large as they could be. Good mappers can make much more open maps, and I have seen in playtesting that it is possible to redine a lot of them so their performance is good.

[JK-]

Your point is that a sniper in that case would be bad, right:huh:

[lordLoss]

No, he means it can be good but not that good.

[JK-]

I mean bad for the zombies, duh:dry:

[Comeback]

I'm really hoping that theres no way will see "UNLIMITED AMMO! NO RELOAD!" servers like we do in CS:ZM.

[Ion]

OMG guys, i justgot a grat iedeea how bout unlimibted ammo when you are shooitng the zobmeis becaiuse that worul rwally bee good for the game because ti would ble like UNLIMITED AMMO! NO RELOAD! and zombies wouldnt get you everyone would have much more funnz please ty thank you guys for making good zombie game

[Teh Infernal Zombine]

eim utpids od?nt kall meh smert

[JK-]

Omgzor, you writzor badzor, & that been badzor ideazor.
I pwnzor you allzor!#?%$
Feel ze painzor of ze haxzor!

[lordLoss]

Pff, noobs.

[JK-]

Noob? Me?
Naaah...

I just tested out the "haxor" language.

[lordLoss]

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[CopperCoatedCandy]

How about an intratec KG-9 with a 32 round clip, it could be relatively weak and inaccurate, but rapid firing.

http://www.saarmfg.com/gunpics/interdy.jpg

[CaptainSnake]

How about an intratec KG-9 with a 32 round clip, it could be relatively weak and inaccurate, but rapid firing.

http://www.saarmfg.com/gunpics/interdy.jpg

Looks like another version of the TEC-9

oh and I believe its the KG-99 not 9

[kusari_gama1]

hows about a shotgun with a flashlight ducktaped under the gun near the barrel?

[Ion]

hows about a knife with a flashlight ducktaped under the knife near the blade?

Or perhaps, an arc welder...

[CopperCoatedCandy]

Looks like another version of the TEC-9

oh and I believe its the KG-99 not 9

It was the first version of the Tec 9, it was originally called the KG-9 until the ATF made intratec change it to a closed bolt because the open bolt design was easy to convert to full automatic. The closed bolt version was the KG-99, followed by the Tec-9, Tec-DC9, and AB-10.

[Hastings]

Bloody ATF.

[CopperCoatedCandy]

My father has a shirt that says: ALCOHOL TOBACCO AND FIREARMS, SHOULD BE A CONVINIENCE STORE, NOT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY.

But back on topic, we should have at least 2 or 3 full auto firearms. AK we already have, and I've suggested The Ruger 10/22 as it's such an extremely popular gun that, with the assistance of all the $10 full auto conversion instructional videos and manuals out there, There's bound to be plenty of them (illegal full-autos) out there. Secondly, a full auto open-bolt KG-9 would be equally as cool and realistic, as they're so easy (supposedly) to convert and there are also plenty of manuals out there for that one too. Can you resist that barrel shroud from that picture? It looks deliciosly awesome.

[JK-]

Weapon ideas!

Grass cutter, and golf club:D
I can't believe I haven't mentioned those two before.

With golf club, you should yell "Fore!", then mash it into the zombies head, and hopefully knock the head away:P
Just kidding:)

But seriously, golfclub would make a good melee weapon;)

As for the grasscutter, it may be a little unbalanced.

Edit: As for what Copper said above, I'd suggest M16.
It is a classic, and is loved by the most, and it would probably attract a few more players sworn to it:P
Like maybe some cs/css zombie mod players;)

[moomoocowman]

I agree with CopperCoatedCandy. There should definitely be a Ruger of some sort in the game. There are tons of Ruger owners.


Holy crap 100th post woohoooo

[the_survivior_lawn_gnome]

i think the coolest wepon would be an armored car or a tank,,,, but scinces thats not goin to happen a chainsaw will do just fine lol.

[cheese]

few things which were mentioned...

The Glock 18 or G-18 is a military grade pistol and holds the 33 rounds only with an extended magazine.

The M16A2 has a select fire of either single or burst (3 rounds) and has no full auto.

The Thompson M1A1 which weighed a ton(10lbs empty), had a magazine of 20 shots standard as shown below.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/ThompsonM1A1VWM.jpg/800px-ThompsonM1A1VWM.jpg

For a pistol, the standard law enforcement pistol is either the Glock 17 or Glock 19. Both are 9x19 but the G19 is favored by government personnel. I know that it's standard issue for U.S. Marshals. There is also the Glock 23 which is used by the F.B.I is a bit more powerful wtih .40 caliber and a standard magazine size of 13.

Almost every law enforcement pistol you'll find will be a Glock now.
http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm will give you most everything you need to know.

As far as grenades, they aren't readily available and don't make sense. Flashbangs or smoke wouldn't do anything against zombies either.

I think a electric stun baton would be a fun weapon to use against zombies. It'd be like the stun stick that the combine use. It would be good for keeping zombies at bay, rather than just doing damage.

http://www.allproducts.com.tw/sup006/happyhorn/hc810.jpg
and also http://www.answers.com/topic/electroshock-weapon

semi-auto sniper rifles would be bad because you'd need a night scope in addition to having a clear shot. Brainbread had a semi-auto sniper rifle in the game and it was decent some of the time. You just need one person with a sniper rifle and everyone else to surround them with shotguns and whatever else and you have a survivor win.

For shotguns, I'd suggest the Mossberg 500 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossberg_500) which is still being used by the military today

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Mossberg_500AL.jpg/800px-Mossberg_500AL.jpg

or it's competitor, the Remington 870 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_870) which is the standard law enforcement and marine shotgun.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/MarineMag1.jpg

As for machine guns, you can go with standard US stuff or you could do something a bit different, like the H&K416 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%26K_416) which is the German alternate to the M4. It's also used by Delta Force, which is kinda neat.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/HK416_D145RS.jpg

And I think if anything, you ought to keep the crowbar, it's sort of a major part of ZP.

well hope ya find some of this useful.

[Hastings]

I so want a thompson! Such a purty gun :)

[cheese]

http://www.counter-strike-dl.com/downloads/source/images2/csdl_source_284t.jpg

a cs:source skin for ya.

http://www.counter-strike-dl.com/source-skins-66.html is the link to where I found it and some others if you wanna dl it.

Whats the deal with everyone wanting a katana? If people understood how hard they are to use, you'd see they aren't really a practical weapon for just anyone. They require training to use, unlike a regular blade weapon. It's one of those hand-and-a-half swords.

[BBoiXBlender]

Here's something we all know was going to happen.

- A cleaver, it's the best way to prove you're a jerk just by sticking this into someone's head.

- Those stupid razor scooters people used to have would probably go in here. I still have mine, and it's covered in rust, mostly because I left it outside for a whole year. I'm thinking you could swing it by the handles, but a scooter is a bad idea, even if you used it for transportation.

- I have a terrible suggestion. Since so many people have been known to smash their TVs with these, I think we should add the WiiMote as a throwing weapon.

- I know some dudes that bought these five hundred dollar laser pens that can cut through wood. Maybe if you made a suburbia map, you could throw a couple of these in. Of course, it did take a while to cut through a piece of wood. It's still fun to do.

- Musical instruments. I own a broken drumset and plenty of old guitars that my family busted up, and I sure do know a hell of a lot of guitarists, drummers bassists. Hell, you could even use a keyboard. Since this is a game, why worry about price tags?

- Chopsticks, only because I'm Asian. I use 'em for more than just eating. Of course I wash them before I eat. That reminds me, I need to get my personal set back from my friend. If you really wanted to impliment this, you could jam a chopstick into their eye socket and wiggle it around to make puree out of their synapses or something, but then you could do that with a pencil or pen as well.

[GIgaBowserX]

[delete This, Whoopsie]

[qwertylol]

rifle should be able to kill zombies in a few rounds, to compensate, rifle rounds should be scarce

[Pantz Master]

I want a flashbang so you can team flash your own teamates.

[zerotonothing]

I want a flashbang so you can team flash your own teamates.

Best post ever.

I'm hanging for a single bolt-action rifle without a scope.

[Wazanator]

I want a flashbang so you can team flash your own teamates.

Oh yeah well i want a Molotov so i can throw it through the door so that my teammates catch on fire when they walk through it!

rifle should be able to kill zombies in a few rounds, to compensate, rifle rounds should be scarce

It already does :P

[Sl@yer S@rge]

got a few things
Winchester rifle lever action would be nice

Winchester shotgun UPDATE! Faster reload would be much appreciated and something wrong with double shot not working right

Beretta is a most loved and desired I personally think

A Sig handgun being P229 is always nice, compact, and even in many RE games

S@W 38. with 2 shots to the head for kill, 3 on carrier

[ZombieSpy]

Stop using this thread its the old one!

[TheDarkness]

got a few things
Winchester rifle lever action would be nice

Winchester shotgun UPDATE! Faster reload would be much appreciated and something wrong with double shot not working right

Beretta is a most loved and desired I personally think

A Sig handgun being P229 is always nice, compact, and even in many RE games

S@W 38. with 2 shots to the head for kill, 3 on carrier

You want the Winchester to be god? Please. No. Faster reload would turn it into a Mega-Pistol really. And the Double Shot works FINE, You just need to realize that the further away, The less damage it does, And shooting double barrel in the chest and expecting 100% for the zombie to blow back, Is dreaming.

[Lev]

How about making reload take half the time if you only fired one chamber, rather than reloading both? I often fire one shot, at which point the zombo runs away to avoid the second one, which is the perfect time to reload but it takes so long that I have to run backwards while I do it or I'm lunch.

Doesn't really matter that much, and it would probably involve a new animation, so I don't really mind if it's not done.