Ruk's survivor tips

[Rukus]

1. DO NOT panic at game start. Its simply a waste of good ammo. Because if you do, Ill be taking your ammo, and you will be stuck with just a melee weapon.

2. Dont pack on the ammo, even if your ammo scouting. If you get caught, you'll give the zombies bait.

3. If a zombie is farther than 15 feet away from you DONT SHOOT. Especially on objective maps

4. Melee weapons are always important. I dont know how many times a melee weapon has helped me get away after my rifle empties.

5. When alone, take the open road. You'll stand a better chance out in the street rather than in the alley.

6. Dont objective skip at round start. This is a common mistake on biotec, causing the keys to never be found.

7. Dont rush. This game is all about teamplay, remember that.

[Grains the vegan ZombiE]

You should add something to #3.

If the zombie is far away, don't shoot unless it's to get a zombie off a teammate.

Yeah, shots are inaccurate at long range from any weapon but a few pistol rounds to the chest could save a survivor from becoming lunch.

[Ranma]

I panic at the beginning so you *can* have my ammo. I don't want a pistol, or ammo for it. You guys can have it. I don't need it, or want it.

[[ZPV] Bob the Salesman]

Panic at start is futile and makes you more vulnirable since you wont be able to panic again if you meet a zombie at the start. Besides, it doesnt make you that much faster. Having a pistol is something I'd advise. Since I go for this strategy:
Use Rifle/shotgun/magnum --> you run out of this ammo --> Use pistol --> you run out of this ammo --> if nothing is left: use melee.
With this I come to:

Melee weapons are always important. I dont know how many times a melee weapon has helped me get away after my rifle empties.

I've had this discussion with ranma too. Ofcourse, feel free to do what you feel is right, but our opinion is: dont bother walking around with more weight when it's not necessary. The plank is weightless though, that is true. But most of the melee weapons cost you a lot of speed, something you dont want. When you need a melee weapon, there is always one rather close in the area, dont bother carrying a machete with you from the start of the round just because 'the machete is f*king awesome dude'. Cause it may be awesome, but realise that a 100hp is nothing. It might as well be 4hp, since 4 punches is all it needs to get you killed, 3 in case of the carrier + the chance of infection.

If a zombie is farther than 15 feet away from you DONT SHOOT. Especially on objective maps

I agree, dont waste ammo on long distances. Only weapon with good accurcy is the mag. Especially when you got the m4 or ak74: dont bother saving some guy. If this guy knows what to do he'll run to you and there will be no need to shoot from far distance. If he doesnt know that: let him die. People waste too much ammo trying to safe 1 guy who will die a minute later anyway cause he ran of with a melee weapon into zombie spawn... Ofcourse, I am overreacting, but you get my point..

[zerotonothing]

I don't want a pistol, or ammo for it. You guys can have it. I don't need it, or want it.

Worst advice ever. Hate to get in a confrontation with you behind me.

[Ranma]

I wasn't giving advice. I was speaking for myself. I do fine without a pistol in the beginning of a map.

There is only one zombie in the beginning, and if I do run into a zombie before I find a gun, the survivors aren't usually spread out too far so it's easy to find someone to help.

[[ZPV] Bob the Salesman]

There is only one zombie in the beginning

Wrong. Depends on the amount of players. And when you run into two good organized zombies at the start you might be in for some trouble. Whether you got back-up or not.
I dont see why you do want to walk around with a melee weapon, but not with a decent pistol. Doesnt make any sense to me at all. And when we look at it from a weight perspective, well:
Usp: Weight: 7.5/11
Axe: Weight: 9.5
Frying pan: Weight: 8.5
Sledge hammer: Weight: 14.5
My point is, the average melee weapon weights more than a pistol. Thats why my advise is: keep at least your pistol, you may drop the 10 ammo, but just hold on to those 15 bullets in your USP or the 17 in your clock or glock.

[Ranma]

I fight better with a frying pan than with a pistol. Just like you fight better with a pistol than a frying pan.

It seems to me than you forget a melee weapon *is* a weapon. I fight ~~~~ good with them. I've killed more with melee weapons than with pistols. That I'm certain on.


To me, a pistol is unwanted weight.

[[ZPV] Bob the Salesman]

I fight better with a frying pan than with a pistol. Just like you fight better with a pistol than a frying pan.

If smacking a zombie in the face with a hammer is the only way you can hit a zombie: work on your accurcy. Cause the choice between having to get close to a zombie to kill him, or staying at safe distance while killing him, isnt really a choice...

[Ranma]

Yes it is a choice. You're insulting me and it's pissing me off. This is a place for tips and strategies, not for shoving your ignorant ways of playing on to others.

You are so inclined on shoving your pistol crap in my face, why don't you trying *my* way. And *then* call it inferior, when you realize that, YOU CAN'T DO IT!


Stop trying to tell me how to play. I can't post a single time in the strategy forum anymore without you trying to correct me one way or another. Back off. I'm sick of defending the way I play against your sharp tongue.





And it's not always a choice. Zombies *do* get up in your face and I'd rather have a frying pan in that instance than a pistol.

[OkeiDo]

Let's not argue in here, it's a place to share stategies and tactics for others to try out and use. If you don't agree with ones tactic, keep in mind that your idea of playing doesn't appeal to everyone. It's okay to discuss but respect that all of us do not prefer the same things.

[[ZPV] Bob the Salesman]

Hey, I am just sharing my thoughts on tactics. Cant blame me for it, Im not the one getting pissed, start coping with critisism. You give your tactic, I am allowed to commend. There.
(P.S: I'm not trying to ~~~~ you up everywhere on the forum, I have agreed with you sometimes, just not most of the time)

I've told you many times that people should play the way they like. But it's like smoking. You are used to it, but it's bad, I tell you it's bad, but you don't care cause your used to it. Why share tactics if you don't feel like trying others than yours?

All im trying to say that, from logical thinking, pistol is the best choice. I even use arguments that state this, but there is no commend on that at all. That's a pity, cause I think I really got a point. Let's all (at least try) to be mature, in stead of whining and crying, screaming for admin intervention..

Lets get back to topic. If I cant convince you, I'd like other people's opinion about this matter. Come and share, come and share. There are never enough opinions after all in a free world.

[crypto]

Bob the Salesman;157142']Hey, I am just sharing my thoughts on tactics. Cant blame me for it, Im not the one getting pissed, start coping with critisism. You give your tactic, I am allowed to commend. There.
(P.S: I'm not trying to ~~~~ you up everywhere on the forum, I have agreed with you sometimes, just not most of the time)

Give me a break. Your responses to Ranma had a pompous and testy attitude. He has a right to be pissed when, through your implication that he has bad aim, you label him a poor player.

All weapons have their place. If I round a corner to find a zombie in my face, I'd rather have a crowbar than a pistol because it's hard as hell to get a quick (i.e. quicker than the zombie can get in four hits and kill you) pistol kill when a zombie's in your face. You can't properly line up shots at that range.

I've told you many times that people should play the way they like. But it's like smoking. You are used to it, but it's bad, I tell you it's bad, but you don't care cause your used to it. Why share tactics if you don't feel like trying others than yours?

I'm stunned that you would come out and say this directly after a moderator's admonition. You're comparing a ~~~~ing video game with a lethal addiction. Just sharing thoughts on strategy, huh? Condescending vitriol like this—calling someone the gaming equivalent of a drug-abusing idiot—sure as hell is insulting.

That said, I'd take a pistol over a melee weapon simply because I'm better with a pistol. Ranma is wise in choosing the tool that best fits his strengths. It seems to me that your insistence on the pistol's superiority stems from the notion that you're worse with a melee weapon. I've seen a single survivor with nothing but a melee weapon emerge from a scrape with several zombies alive, and usually with those zombies crumpled lifeless on the ground.

[[ZPV] Bob the Salesman]

Your responses to Ranma had a pompous and testy attitude

True, cause I felt his acting like some superior player made me sceptic, so I tend to be more critisising in that case. Sometimes it's good to get people back on the ground with both of their feet. He has a right to be pissed. If he wishes to expres himself like that I find that fine, just not very mature. Words can be fought with words, not with simply cursing, shouting and crying.

I'm stunned that you would come out and say this directly after a moderator's admonition.

Sorry, but in my opinion the admin acted pretty much neutral. And I find my comparision pretty good. Cause in a way, routine is an addiction. That you wish to express the fact that smoking is (possibly) lethal is totally your choice, if you read me well my comparision isnt about this subject. Neither did I use the word drug-abusing idiot, once again. Your words and interpretation.

May I add that the pistol has the positive effect of kickback? When it comes to close combat neither melee nor pistol will be the best weapon to act with. Only a rifle will do as seems fit. But from these two, in my opinion, the pistol is the best. Also, my view is that being unable to kill a zombie with pistolround means a lack of accurcy. But hey, thats just my point of view. I'll leave this to be my last commend to avoid too much off-topic. But, ofcourse feel free to respond. Or add me at steam: noxumbra, if you feel like talking.

[Ranma]

Want to know the difference between you and me?
I don't tell people how they should play. I state how I play and let them choose. I don't tell them that they are wrong and have to do things *my* way.

Even in my loner's guide I state...
"Use what you like, and if you don't agree with some of the things I've written, ignore that part and do whatever you want to in that instance."
I don't tell players what to do, even in my own strategy thread.


You called me narrow minded because I didn't want to try things *your* way, when in fact, I already had. Why don't you put the shoe on the other foot and try my way? Oh no... *you're* too narrow-minded to try that, aren't you?

All im trying to say that, from logical thinking, pistol is the best choice.No you're not. You're telling me I'm wrong and deliberately irritating me. Quote here.True, cause I felt his acting like some superior player made me sceptic...
You're calling me immature? It's immature to irritate someone deliberately.



...in my opinion, the pistol is the best...This is the first time you've stated it as an opinion. Though the entire thread you've been saying I'm playing wrong, stating it as a fact that Melee weapons are just "unneeded weight" that "I don't want".
You've been speaking as if these were facts, not opinions.






Never once did I called for OkeiDo and ask him to interfere.
And no, OkeiDo was speaking to you. I'm not telling people how to play, you are.

The only time he was speaking to both of us is when he was telling us to stop arguing.

[crypto]

Bob the Salesman;157165']True, cause I felt his acting like some superior player made me sceptic, so I tend to be more critisising in that case. Sometimes it's good to get people back on the ground with both of their feet. He has a right to be pissed. If he wishes to expres himself like that I find that fine, just not very mature. Words can be fought with words, not with simply cursing, shouting and crying.

Well, you possess an incredibly skewed point of view on the matter. He inserted his opinion (rather politely, I think); you were the one so apt to pontificate. As for foul language, the tilde appears in your post as well as ours.

Sorry, but in my opinion the admin acted pretty much neutral. And I find my comparision pretty good. Cause in a way, routine is an addiction. That you wish to express the fact that smoking is (possibly) lethal is totally your choice, if you read me well my comparision isnt about this subject. Neither did I use the word drug-abusing idiot, once again. Your words and interpretation.

Let me get this straight: Your reference to drug addiction was completely lacking in the implication that drug addiction is bad? I may have been liberal in my word choice, but your assertion appeared very accusatory. I could say your refusal to acknowledge Ranma's playing style as reasonable a bad routine. Hence you play like a smoker smokes.

May I add that the pistol has the positive effect of kickback? When it comes to close combat neither melee nor pistol will be the best weapon to act with. Only a rifle will do as seems fit. But from these two, in my opinion, the pistol is the best. Also, my view is that being unable to kill a zombie with pistolround means a lack of accurcy. But hey, thats just my point of view. I'll leave this to be my last commend to avoid too much off-topic. But, ofcourse feel free to respond. Or add me at steam: noxumbra, if you feel like talking.

I believe melee weapons also have kickback. And somehow I doubt Ranma is entirely incapable of killing a zombie with a pistol, but I'll leave that explanation to him.